YEP Letters: October 1

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Ashamed at fans’ ‘loutish’ behaviour

Phil Roche, Garforth

Regrettably this season following Leeds United, especially away, I have witnessed an upsurge in so called fans lacking the ability to think for themselves with individuals tending to follow their leader like sheep under the influence of both alcohol and peer pressure.

At the recent MK Dons game I chatted with one of their fans who informed me that their bar would be closed as “you know what Leeds fans are like?” I asked for a more detailed explanation but to no avail.

Standing near their ground enjoying the warm sunshine and accompanying beverage I reflected upon my earlier conversation and thought shame about the opposition fans beliefs and experiences of LUFC.

Suddenly two Leeds buses parked up and several drunken louts appeared and immediately wanted to take on the police horses and attendant officers.... I realised that the MK Dons fan was right; I was ashamed at this loutish behaviour which encouraged others who did not have the willpower nor brains to think for themselves.

A similar experience was witnessed at Middlesbrough, and the sickening part about it is that if you don’t behave or act like these people you are the “strange” individual!

This mass behaviour and “idiots abroad” approach does absolutely nothing for Leeds United; by the time the match commences these “people” are ready to return to the bar for yet another pint and cigarette.

Without doubt the vast majority of fans go to the game to support their team, enjoy the game and experience.

“All Leeds aren’t we?”... unfortunately yes but sometimes I would like to say no! As in most walks of life the minority tend to leave that lasting stench of a memory and create a bad name for others. Come on Leeds!


Will cycle lanes be cleared?

Ivan Kovacks, by email

I know a lot has been written about the various aspects of these new cycle highways but I’m thinking a few months down the line when winter comes and the lanes are finished and in use.

The question is will the council keep these lanes free of snow or leave the cyclists to fend for themselves? Clearly the large road snow ploughs cannot be used so will smaller narrower ones be bought for the lanes and is so, which way will they shovel the snow, on to the road or on to the pavements?

I suppose if these are kept clear then this will mean they will fill up with pedestrians as the pavements are always the last to be cleared. I’m all for these tracks ask they will help keep the cyclists safer in a few areas but what I fear it will do is to encourage more to come up on to the pavements when the lanes run out.

Wrongly issued parking tickets

R Winter, Leeds 25

With reference to your story concerning motorists not being able to claim for refunds for parking fines.

The police wrongly issue tickets fining motorists..then, because the recipient didn’t contest the matter in court the police decide they have “effectively accepted having committed the offence”.

What a terrible mealy mouthed legalese response to an anomaly and issue they created. This doesn’t take any account of the fact that contesting the matter could result in the fine being doubled as well as the costs involved in attending court including time off work etc. Therefore, maybe because it is too much hassle to fight is why they are not contested, not that they are accepted.

And before people comment that does it matter if the PCSO wasn’t actually authorised if the offence had been committed.. consider this, if they weren’t authorised were they suitably trained?

I received a parking ticket in 2008 for parking on a street in Headingley for a Rhinos match at the rugby ground. I have parked in the same place there for over 30 years before and the six years since the ticket. For some reason, that particular day, the PCSO gave me a ticket. I paid, it was too much hassle to contest. Also, what an awful system we now have for all motoring offences in that a person has to appear in court to challenge any motoring offence.

Once upon a time you could respond to the Chief Constable with any mitigating circumstances eg one of the many ‘misleading’ road signs throughout Leeds that can lead to some of the charges raised.

Anger over cleaning charge

Ernest Lundy, by email

One of the main topics of conversation has to be the subject of asylum seekers, refugees and other groups of migrants; their reasons for coming to Europe, other things involved such as the cost to the countries they arrive in and the apparent largess in dealing with those costs. And whether our tax players should be burdened with those expenses.

However less important issues continue to affect the public, one of which is to be a council imposed cleaning charge of £2 a week for communal hallways and lobbies of flats, which has created a number of complaints and anger, particularly among OAP council tenants.

The OAP pension raise for this year was £3, therefore two thirds of this will be taken to pay the new charge when previously it was assumed that such payment would come from council tax. Considering also that the remaining £1 will be more than absorbed by rising costs, it seems that the award of £3 has turned out to be an ‘Irishman’s rise’!

If UK pensions were commensurate with those of other EU countries it wouldn’t be so bad. But when they are not, how is it that those with the least very often still have to pay the most?

Socialism ‘doesn’t work’

Chris Sharp, Garforth

So Messrs Corbyn and McDonnell wooed the delegates and faithful at conference. It is easy to preach to the converted, being nice, in the real world people can be nasty and dishonest.

I do not suggest they lie and cheat, but wake up. To be like Greece, Italy, France fiscally is not acceptable.

If I have £1 and beer is £2 a pint I get a half, this is not rocket science. Extreme socialism has shown through history not to work, please wake up to the real world and keep away from Thomas More’s Utopia, it was pie in the sky in the 16th century and it still is.