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Published Date:
25 October 2007
SIX hundred dustbin crews and street cleaners downed tools in Leeds today in a lightning protest over proposed pay cuts of up to £120 a week
The unofficial stoppage brought cleansing services in the city to a halt as crews refused to move from the city's main refuse depot at Cross Green and yards across Leeds.

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Union officials and senior management from the Council rushed to the Cross Green depot and the workers were addressed by director Randall Brown early today.

The stoppage follows a pay review which has left up to 3,500 Leeds Council workers facing pay cuts which will also hit pensions.

The workers are divided between three unions - UNISON, the General and Municipal Workers' Union GMB, and the Transport and General Workers' Union, of which UNISON is the largest.

UNISON convenor Billy Darkin said: "The Council has done a job evaluation right across the city. All the street cleansing lads, refuse, waste management, are going to lose money.

"The cuts vary from £3,000 a year to £6,000 a year. It is going to cost some people their mortgages.

"We heard yesterday they were going to refuse to move from the yards until management agreed to talk to them. It was not unexpected, though it was not planned."

The stoppage ended after the meeting with management but may be followed by an official ballot on strike action.

One refuse worker, who said his annual basic salary was due to plunge from £17,985 to £13,720, described the proposed deal as "diabolical."

Although under a pay protection clause any reductions will not take effect for at least three years, the worker - who did not wish to be named - said there was great concern among his colleagues.

He said: "People have taken out mortgages and loans on the basis of having a basic wage of nearly £18,000.

"Cuts of this size will leave people in real trouble. I have added up my outgoings and I couldn't afford to pay my bills."
"This will also effect the pensions we will be entitled to when we retire."

Another worker currently earning over £16,000 said that under the new structure his pay would fall to £11,700.

The pay review is being carried out by Councils nationwide following a court ruling that thousands of women Council employees were underpaid for years.

Councils face bills of millions to put matters right and began reviews of pay structures. In Leeds the bill is around £3m.

In Leeds 45 per cent of the Council's 35,000 staff will not be affected, and 47 per cent will receive pay increase. But eight per cent - about 3,500 workers - face pay cuts.

The council says that over the next three years it will continue talks with the unions to explore ways of avoiding pay cuts.

Letters have gone out to about 23,000 local authority staff in Leeds setting out details of the new proposed pay and grading system.
Council bosses say the proposed structure aims to address "historic, out-of-date" pay issues.

A further 6,000 posts have still to be evaluated.

A council spokeswoman said: "Wherever possible we have tried to minimise the impact of these changes on staff and we do understand that it will affect individuals differently and that it has been a very difficult process for our employees to go through.

"That is why we have offered pay protection for those affected for three years and worked closely with affected groups to minimise the impact of the changes."

She said the average pay cut was £1,800.

Brian Mulvey, of UNISON's Leeds local government branch, said: "It is our intention that no staff should suffer pay cuts and we have a commitment from the council to look at how jobs can be redesigned so that there are no wage losses.

" We feel this is the best agreement we can get now. If in three years time people are about to have their wages cut I am sure they will want to respond with industrial action."

YOUR VIEW
I didn't even know they were on strike till I read this. My bin was emptied as usual. Or does this report refer to Wednesday the 24th October?

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I live in Whinmoor and my bins were due to be emptied today. As I live in a block of 6 flats our bin was quite full and the binmen didn't turn up until 9:24 pm. Which I find outrageous when young children could be in bed.

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YOU NEVER SEE ANY OUTDOOR COUNCIL EMPLOYEES WORKING IN ADVERSE WEATHER EXCEPT YOUR REFUSE COLLECTORS!!! £6.00 PER HOUR IS A JOKE THE SERVICE WILL GO DOWN HILL WHEN THE COUNCIL EMPLOYES THE INFLUX OF EASTERN EUROPEANS WAIT AND SEE.IM A BINMAN FOR 18YEARS BUT I WILL HAVE TO LEAVE AS I CANNOT AFFORD TO WORK FOR L.C.C.

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Our Refuse crews do a great job, out in all weathers and they work all bank holidays apart from Christmas day boxing day and new years day (at normal plain time rates)
When the refuse collection staff work overtime there pay is by no means enhanced.
The conditions the crews work under is far from ideal, productivity is excellent, yet most people unfortunately do not realise just how much work and effort from the crews and management team is involved to deliver the service.…
Other local authorities might pay there work force much less, but we are dealing with a huge metropolitan area in Leeds covering a wide variety of housing and terrain difficulties.
It is about time people started to value this excellent front line service, remember the cost of delivering the refuse collection service is only a small element of the council tax.
Raymond Hewlett Mullins(Leeds)

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Im sorry but i think the pay review board must live on another planet might i suggest they swop jobs for a week and see if the rate of pay they are offering to give the council workers matches the job instead of evaluations done from here say and paper work get out there and see for yourselfs.
I cant understand why they would wish to bring hardship to the very people who help to keep leeds what it is today.
But then again it all comes down to pension and the goverments way to pay less when you retire plain and simple.
The post office workers, The railway workers ,The council workers,all in the same boat.
whose next The nhs ?
And as for the unions who allowed this to go ahead when it comes time to budget your income in 3 years time they will be the first to loose out where will they be then. yours
graffit team needle team and refuse.

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Simon Ward,

Tyersal 25/10/2007 13:31:18
I presume that my bin hasn't been emptied today! What provisions are the council making to make up for lost time on this?
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STER,

LEEDS 25/10/2007 14:30:40
GO FOR IT LADS ITS OK 4 THEM 2 SPEND ON AVERAGE £30,000 ON EXPENSES AND ROB THE ONLY GRAFTERS THIS COUNCILS GOT !!!!!!
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Support The Council Workers!,

Leeds 25/10/2007 19:12:22
I am among the 2000+ people losing out in this restructure. Most of the management have had significant pay increases, while those on the lower pay scales are to lose enough to cost them their home and potentially a lot more. This situation is an absolute disgrace, we have suffered with poor wage rises way below inflation for years, Most workers on the low pay scales are already struggling to get by as it is... Talk about adding insult to injury! I would urge the public to offer their support over the coming turbulent months, there may be trouble ahead!
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STER,

leeds 25/10/2007 19:41:21
A SCHOOL CROSSING WARDEN WILL BE ON MORE MONEY THAN THE BIN MEN FACT!!!!!!!!!!
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Francis Edwards,

Leeds 26/10/2007 10:33:58
Is this a clever way of getting the central government to pay for bin men. Is it a case of reduce their wages and the ones with kids try to claim working family tax credit to make up some of the shortfall?
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michaelrobertax1,

n wales 09/01/2008 15:00:48
as usual the worker has to suffer with these so called wage evaluations ,the bosses have no idea how much work is done in all weathers , if they want to save money they should evaluate themselves they have about 3 men doing the job of one ; lorries badly maintained ,having to hire lorries at a cost of thousands a week ,if the council was run as a business it would collapse in a couple of days stop wasting ratepayers money .
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Redronan,

Yorkshire 27/07/2009 10:32:34
I think that people need to know how hazardous this job this is binmen have to handle waste that is highly contaminated the job isnt suitable for everyone you need to be able to walk all day in all weathers,you have to be hardened to english weather mainly "rain" you open the curtains at 5am to the sight of rain pelting down and you know your in that all day but you get on with it we dont get rained off,the abuse you get although there is a great many of the public who do understand that it is a awfull smelly job that they wouldnt do but who are greatfull we do.This is a skilled job that deserves a skilled pay.
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BBBoy,

Leeds 27/07/2009 13:24:37
If I robbed an old lady of her pension and I slapped her around the face. - This would be theft!
If I asked her politely but firmly for her money - This would be theft!
If I took her money then decided she could have a little bit back 'so she could eat' then I smiled sweetly at her and bade her "Have a nice day" - this also would be theft!

What's the difference. What gives some do-gooder with a secure income the right to make the decision to cut these well earned wages which are below the rate of inflation anyway. If we need more money to pay the 'ladies' more equally (an indisputable quandry) then how-about we take away the 2nd home of our esteemed Cllr's and force them to drive mere 'Fords' instead of the compulsary 'Jaguars'

SUPORT YOUR BINMEN!
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tatty,

leeds 29/07/2009 00:20:02
Come on folks, 18k a year for working on the bins?? We pay huge amounts of council tax for a service that you could train chimps to do,The works not even hard anymore, we do the hard part by dragging the wheely bin to the bloody kirb for the bin man to move it a whole 3 feet to the back of the wagon and if your lucky they some times will dump the mostly empty bin back on the kirb for you to drag back.
I think they should stop bitching and either get on with the job or look for other employment,they should be paid what they are worth within the budget constraints of the council just like the rest of the workers and think themselves lucky they have a job that is fairly secure.

Get Real Bin Men, you move bins a few feet so the wagon can empty them,you shouldn't be getting more money than a Nurse gets to do that job.
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liesl,

Leeds 29/07/2009 14:01:25
Why the hard working people always suffer? for 13k-18k were not high enough but a cut is just pathetic! Council should reduce their budget on many unnecessary spending, such as tea and biscuits, unnecessary road works but not to cut hard working people’s salaries!
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